How to argue with your friend who claims that FOX is no different (two steps)
Talking Point Joint for this week (sorry it's a little late)
If you say that the number of blue whale attacks on America's seniors has risen sharply since Obama's election and I point out that blue whale attacks have remained steady, are we both equally biased?
If you think so, then you're probably down with the latest talking point, that FOX is no different than MSNBC. There are two useful steps to challenge a person who holds this belief. It's all about the lies Lebowski.
First, point out several lies given voice on FOX and ask your friend to name the lies that started at MSNBC. Focus! Pointing out media personalities that annoy them doesn't count! Wait a few minutes and be gracious when your friend doesn't have any answers. Here's a few FOX 'untruths' to get you started.
- There is a clause in a Democratic health bill that provides for death panels
- Obama's education czar condoned statutory rape
- 3-in-one lie. The VHA has a death book that 'promotes pulling the plug'. The Bush administration suspended its use. VHA doctors must direct patients to the book.
- Terrorist fist jab - E.D. Hill apologized for reporting on how others 'in the media' had characterized the Obamas' gesture, when in fact she alone characterized it that way.
- Obama's first annual budget four times larger than any of Bush's
- The number of czars are growing under Obama and they have unchecked power
- Acorn has someone inside the White House
Which ties into the second step. Ask another question.
Where are the websites that point out MSNBC's lies? There is an industry of organizations devoted to pointing out the misinformation effused by FOX. If all the cable networks are equally bad, then where are the websites that point out lies on MSNBC? In fact there are some websites that purport to point out lies, but in fact they only point out things they disagree with.
Take a big one like Newsbusters, whose mission is 'Exposing and Combatting Liberal Media Bias'. Here's a list of their headlines today. Did they uncover any media lies?
- 40 GOP Senators Sign Letter to Reid Demanding Internet Posting of Healthcare Bill
- New Coalition Targets Limbaugh, Beck, Dobbs, Buchanan and Brown
- Revolving Door: Clinton & Newsweek Alum Walderman Takes Job with Obama FCC
- CBS Interviews Levi Johnston Again, Palin Says network should be 'Ashamed'
- Really? Online NPR Poll Finds Even Split in White House- Fox News Feud
So to recap, when you're battling your misguided friends on this very important point, ask them to list lies they saw on MSNBC, and don't let them get away with pointing out hosts they don't like. Focus on the lying issue. Then, when you point out lies on FOX and your friend claims that those lies were pointed out by liberal media websites, just point out that the industry is so fertile because there are so many lies coming out of FOX. Challenge them to take you to a website that exposes lies of hosts like Rachel Maddow. When they are unable to produce any lies, celebrate your victory internally and don't gloat. It's not about winning or losing; it's about bringing more reality to our national discourse.
Better yet, if you don't want to go through all that trouble, send this post to your favorite 'FOX may be bad, but it's no different than the others' proponent.




